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SUPERIMPOSED VISIONS DISCUSSION
By CinnamonMoon

For Mizz was mentioning in the shapeshifting thread about "overshadowing" entities around
someone who channels. I thought it would be a good idea to start a discussion on this subject in a
separate thread.

Quoting Mizz~ "Ya, when I first saw the overshadowing, I was pretty new in my path. It was
amazing to me because at the time, I was doubting the channelers’ ability to channel."
I'm going to sidestep the issue of channeling and focus on the superimposed image. While I don't
see the presence of entities around those who channel, at least I've not got a recollection of that
per se, I do see people's Totems around them.

Whether in person or through a photo, these Totem Animals stand out to me. Their Power
Animal dominates on their faces when I switch over to a spiritual eye so-to-speak. Then others
begin to show themselves as well and will take their positions...right side, left side, above, below,
etc., they appear on the face or in the hair and auric field of the face. I can only relate it to you as
being similar to the images one would see in tea leaf readings.

I do not get all their Totems always, but a good number of them will step forward and I can read
the person for my own personal insight as well as to help them if they hold an interest in that
issue. It's been something I've just always done, and I don't do it professionally as it takes too
much time being invested, so I reserve it for more one on one contact while doing my pathwork.
I also have superimposed images/visions while working at the computer and the monitor screen
(no matter what's on the page) turns black, the image takes over against that background and
flashes before me. I have to stop what I'm doing and open to receive the message. Sometimes it's
a scene and at other times it will be a Totem showing me its face so I know what Medicine to
open to. It can linger or simply flash before me.

While at Chaco Canyon working at a sacred site there I was shown images of the past, watching
the sunbaked weathered hands of those who built the Kivas laying the clay bricks in place. With
that came the voices on the Wind of the people themselves, just going about their daily tasks,
children playing, women working, and the men building. It was a glimpse into the past, and there
was past life recall with it, not a lot but enough to make a very strong impression on me.

I love these moments and enjoy working with them a lot. They have always found a way of
validating themselves for me later, or in present interactions with others if that's the case. I find it
fascinating to experience each time it happens and easily slide into these experiences.
Won't you share some of your own with us? Like Mizz who stated: "Several things happened to
me during that investigation that opened many other doors to me." I think this is something that
is Key to a lot of us opening ourselves wider, and it does take a desire to do that. While the
experience comes in a random pattern at first, the more we work with it the stronger the ability
(sight) becomes. What have you experienced with overlays or superimposed visions?

Mizz Mo:
That Channeler was my only experience with superimposing, but gathering what you're saying, I
can continue towards this if I choose to see other images with whatever work I am doing? So it
needn't stop from that experience? I've not trieed to further those kinds of images even though it
was pretty cool when it happened. Sometimes when I am reading threads, or looking at names,
I'll get images of others. This has been primarily during the course of doing readings and I find
doing the live reading easier than doing the "post' reading. My visions or images don't appear as
they would doing the live ones, I guess this is something I need to work on to round them out a
bit. Two of our members recently went down to NM and took some amazing pictures of the
canyon and other areas. When he sent me the pictures, I could see many not in the picture, and
the feelings I got were eerie in a sense being watched. That will happen in many pictures I look
at, where a bit of the "predator effect" will super impose over the captures in the photos. So I
guess in essence, it has continued on for me on different levels.

CinnamonMoon:
Hi Mizz~
“That Channeler was my only experience with superimposing, but gathering what you're saying,
I can continue towards this if I choose to see other images with whatever work I am doing? So it
needn't stop from that experience?”
Absolutely!

“I've not tried to further those kinds of images even though it was pretty cool when it happened.”
If you're interested in doing that soften your gaze rather than a hard one. Squinting sometimes
helps but what I do is to simply not focus on the details of the face, instead I sort of look through
it and the images start to surface. Like you'd stare at a blank wall and enter the semi-trance state
of a daydream, or look out a window beyond the environment and follow your thoughts rather
than what's visually there. I hope that made sense. LOL

“Sometimes when I am reading threads, or looking at names, I'll get images of others.”
Well the ability is clearly with you, you just need to work with it more then.
“This has been primarily during the course of doing readings and I find doing the live reading
easier than doing the "post' reading. My visions or images don't appear as they would doing the
live ones, I guess this is something I need to work on to round them out a bit.”

Yes it is. When I first started to read for people I wouldn't do the distant work either. I had to get
comfortable with my skill in a one on one setting too. I think many of us are like that, and the
connection factor needs to become more solidified for us. Once that happens though, and a
comfort zone is reached the more distant readings seem a natural progressions. Today I'm able to
do them through writing back and forth, over the phone, or in chat sessions. Initially I'd have
avoided that like the plague. As we grow to trust ourselves that starts to change. It just comes as
it comes and we tend to go with it more.

“Two of our members recently went down to NM and took some amazing pictures of the canyon
and other areas. When he sent me the pictures, I could see many not in the picture, and the
feelings I got were eerie in a sense being watched. That will happen in many pictures I look at,
where a bit of the "predator effect" will super impose over the captures in the photos. So I guess
in essence, it has continued on for me on different levels.”

I've never felt a predatory effect like you describe from photos, though I get plenty that emerges
beyond the content on the surface. I'm wondering if these predatory senses you have aren't the
spirits wanting to come through to you? Maybe you do have the ability to channel their messages
in a way that works for you?

Photos are interesting and many believe they capture the spiritual essence of things and trap it.
You'll find many people that avoid having their picture taken for this reason, or don't like the
photos that seem to elicit that reaction to an internal mirror's reflection. It can be eerie for people
to see these things too. It was a big wow factor for me at first and I would have to point it out to
someone to see if I was imagining things myself. Today I trust it completely and have had so
much validation. If I read for someone from their photo they are always amazed and wondering
"How did you know that?!!!" so it's fun at times too just seeing their reactions. I don't find it
difficult at all though. My oldest daughter is now manifesting this same ability and I'm really
enjoying her exploration process. She also sees the spirits of those who have crossed and I feel
she has the gift of mediumship but needs time to accept it. If not that then she has the ability to
help them into the Light. She's very aware of ancestral spirits around her and her family too and
takes a more metaphysical approach to her gifts as opposed to a shamanic one.

Mizz Mo:
Ok, rereading I guess the thin veil I see in pictures, is the predator effect. When I say predator, I
mean kind of like the movie when the predator is somewhat wavy. I should use a different
explanation, because it’s not like that as much as it looks like the thin veil, or super imposed
images. I'll see a blurred, a bit darker over than the actual image. Does this make sense? What
we see from the actual image in the pictures, is a bit hard to explain. Yes, I have much to work
on, and I.m dying to hears others on these subjects too. Two more great subjects Cinn!

StarDreamer:
“I do not get all their Totems always, but a good number of them will step forward and I can read
the person for my own personal insight as well as to help them if they hold an interest in that
issue. It's been something I've just always done, and I don't do it professionally as it takes so
much time invested, so I reserve it for more one on one contact while doing my pathwork.”
Ah! Now I do see people's totems occasionally! I just never thought of that as superimposition,
though. Sometimes I've seen the totem with the person, but, mostly, the person as the totem. I've
never sought them intentionally, though, as for a reading.

These and other physical images/impressions (such as seeing my daughter in front of me as a NA
Warrior in full paint! Thought I'd lost it on that one! Had great difficulty carrying on a
conversation with her) just happen unsought. But I suppose that with intention and direction I
could bring them into readings?

CinnamonMoon:
I'm sorry Mizz, I misunderstood you. I know just what you're talking about now. LOL Makes
perfect sense as I saw the movie! Ha!

StarDreamer~ “These and other physical images/impressions (such as seeing my daughter in front of me as a
NA Warrior in full paint! Thought I'd lost it on that one! Had great difficulty carrying on a
conversation with her) just happen unsought. But I suppose that with intention and direction I
could bring them into readings?”

Absolutely! It's amazing how these things happen and we either ignore them or let them remain a
puzzle piece for a while. Then someone says something and we "click" and have an a-ha moment.
Looks like you just had one, Congrats!

Mizz Mo:
Does anyone get superimposed names over names? This has been with me for a week or so now,
and I am trying to figure out why I have been shown this.

CinnamonMoon:
I've never heard of that Mizz, sounds interesting, is there any way you could check to see if it's
ancestry showing up?

Mizz Mo:
hmmm, ok, well I'm going to have to sit with spirit a bit more and either find out why I'm being
shown this, or ask them to knock it off. LOL

StarBearWalking:
Greetings! Just a few of my experiences with superimposed Spirits . When I do Reiki my hands
are superimposed with a working man's hands, short nails and a few callouses. Jesus is my main
Reiki guide.

At the last Sweat someone brought a picture. It was amazing. First let me say that taking a
picture of a Sweat Lodge is not permitted. This picture was taken of two medicine people
standing in the spot where the Sweat Lodge was going to be. On the picture, not on the negative,
you can see the Sweat lodge, two Elder grandmothers from this group of people who have
dropped their robes and many more Spirits. This was just their way of saying, "We are with
you." IMHO! The lady who's camera this is has taken many pictures over the years and has
captured many of our ancestors around us. It's always neat to see what she brings.
While in court with a friend I saw superimposed on the wall a panel of Judges outlined in gold.
They were there to judge the Judge. They came each day and sat quietly on the wall. I don't know
what they decided. The outcome for my friend, unfortunately, wasn't good.

Luna:
I took a picture of Mount Rushmore... in the rocks surrounding the picture a Native American
man is formed by the rocks & trees. This only appears in one of my pictures none of the rest. Yes
it’s on the neg. too. I was so startled the first time I noticed him there looking at the faces. It’s a
chief in head-dress. He looks kinda sad...

BearInMind:
“I also have superimposed images/visions while working at the computer and the monitor screen
(no matter what's on the page) turns black, the image takes over against that background and
flashes before me. I have to stop what I'm doing and open to receive the message.”
This reminds me of how sometimes I will be trying to read something I really have no interest in
and I find myself just staring at the center of the page. The characters seem to blend together,
sometimes swirling but then I just give up trying to read thinking I am too distracted and just
cannot concentrate on it at that moment. I wonder if this is similar ~ I never questioned it.
So Superimposed Vision, from what I understand by what's being said about it here, is not only a
physical vision (though for the most part it is), but it is also a mind's-eye (imaginative) vision as well...?

Mizz Mo:
That’s somewhat my take on this. But then again, I'm not so sure. I have recently been here on
the puter, and while looking at someone’s handle/nickname, gotten 2 more nick name/handles
sort of overshadowed over the top of the first nick name. That’s the best way I can describe it.
Don't know why this would happen out of the blue, but it did, and after that happened, other bits
and pieces of info flowed after that, like others aha moments. Now I've been told you cannot read
anyone who doesn't ask, but it’s happened a couple of other times too. A informative moment
that’s gone on for several more moments. It’s not that I don't welcome these types of things, but
what is really bothering me, is I'm not about to do anything about it as long as no one’s being
physically hurt. So spirit, can we move forward because I don't know what the heck I'm
supposed to do about this.

BearInMind:
Another question arose while I was out getting lunch. When I do mirror scrying, when my image
changes, are what I find myself looking at also referred to as Superimposed Visions?

CinnamonMoon:
BIM~In the mirror exercise you are looking into the eyes of your inner spirit. Superimposed
visions can come anywhere at any time, it's like the vision that forms in a daydream overlaying
the environment you are in. Whenever, wherever. Happening on my monitor screen is simply a
result of that being the environment where I focus the majority of my attention so when my
Guides want to tell me something they show it to me there.

Mizz~I sense that what you are being shown with the overlay of names atop names is insight that
is meant for you to better understand these individuals...personal insight if you will. Perhaps so
you can better acquaint yourself with them and see where there would be a connection point for
the two of you to share things. If you're seeing their recent growth or lessons in this, it may be
Spirit's way of showing you how to help them validate that or for you to touch their life in some
way.

BearInMind:
What about focusing on paper? You skipped that one. Maybe I'll print something I don't want to
read and follow the blur through to see what happens.

CinnamonMoon:
Wherever we are focusing our attention this can happen. For me it's often a monitor screen. For
you it may be reading a book, looking out a window, or looking at the landscape. The visions
just "come to us" if you will and we are being presented with something very simple in terms
that we should understand. The hard part in figuring them out is to simplify because we tend to
lean to complication first. Reducing it to the simplest terms of what is being shown should cause
us to *click* on the meaning and the seed sprouts so-to-speak.

Some of what you see happen when reading could also be tied to your eye condition though.
That should be easy to decipher just speaking to your doctor and asking if that's a symptom of
the condition or not. I have a stigmatism and when my eyes are strained lines of print will jump
around on the page, skipping and misplacing words out of context. I have to rest my eyes and go
back to the reading after that. This type of experience is different than the vision.

If in your case, these words begin to pattern and swirl it may be that in the center of that swirling
a vision would come to you if you can be patient and let it take form. When scrying the
pinwheeling edge of the vision (or swirling) is very common, often preceded with curling smoke
or clouds that will clear. The overlay vision does not contain that, it just pops up overlaying
whatever we're focused on. It's a message from our Guides that we need to take heed of in that case.

Let's say I was looking at my monitor and it suddenly went black. Outlined in the black I might
see Hawk in some form, either full body or the head. Just Hawk and nothing more. This would
tell me that Hawk is reaching out to me and I need to apply the overview Hawk addresses to the
issue at hand or foremost on my mind. Now if that were to happen when I'm posting to someone
it would apply to that relationship. If it were to happen while I'm writing an article I'd need to
apply it to the article to give better comprehension. If it were to happen while attending to
normal mundane matters I'd need to apply it to an issue of personal importance that is foremost
in my life. You see?

Mizz Mo:
“Mizz~I sense that what you are being shown with the overlay of names atop names is insight
that is meant for you to better understand these individuals...personal insight if you will. Perhaps
so you can better acquaint yourself with them and see where there would be a connection point
for the two of you to share things. If you're seeing their recent growth or lessons in this, it may
be Spirit's way of showing you how to help them validate that or for you to touch their life in
some way.”

This kind of insight isn't for me. I feel almost like a judge and jury, and can't step beyond what
I've been shown. I've asked spirit to bring this to you and SEDD if its revelent, and I'm going to
go ground, center, and try and put this behind me.

CinnamonMoon:
Okay Mizz, just release it then.

EaglesHand:
Mizz-“Now I've been told you cannot read anyone who doesn't ask, but it’s happened a couple of
other times too. A informative moment that’s gone on for several more moments. It’s not that I
don't welcome these types of things, but what is really bothering me, is I'm not about to do
anything about it as long as no ones being physically hurt. So spirit, can we move forward
because I don't know what the heck I'm supposed to do about this. “

My sense of experiences like this is that they maybe sort of like echoes that the person is allowing
to trail along with them where ever they go. They may not even be aware of it. I do not see that
being the same as deliberately reading someone without their permission. IMO reading someone
without permission is seeking information for one's personal use or merely to satisfy curiosity..
that is an invasion of privacy and definitely a no-no. However when information comes
spontaneously without you seeking it then.... With the "echoes".... I know I use different names on
different boards - here I'm EaglesHand... on another non spiritual board I'm djklaugh. You may
be picking up those other identities because the person in question is just letting the other ids
float along beside them...

As for what to do with them.... well, you don't need to do anything really unless you feel pushed
to inbox someone and ask about what you saw. Or if other information is coming to you
spontaneously perhaps inboxing the person with a cautious query and if they are interested in
hearing more letting them know what you received... and if not then tell Spirit you tried and the
other person is not receptive at the moment.

As a trained healer/empath I am very good (in face-to-face situations any way... via the internet
only fair) at reading other people’s body language and emotional states. It can startle some folks
-- I've had a few people accuse me of reading their minds - my response is to let them know what
I am seeing and how I am interpreting it(and accept any corrections they might want to add) ...
and that I have no idea of the reasons behind this... I don't get the story just the emotional
ambiance that they display. Of course in my situation they have come seeking help and are in
fact asking to be "read" in some sense.

From the things you've posted on this thread and others recently I do not sense you are violating
any boundaries or doing readings without permission... you are a sensitive and psychic and you
are getting messages without seeking for the messages.

Relax hon. Learn to trust your instincts and trust your gut!

CinnamonMoon:
Very good points EaglesHand.

SacredGarden:
My daughter can look at people and see their totems, as she describes it... "sorta a veil over their
face".

For me, I don't see that, but I do get visions of scenes and/or faces while looking at the computer
screen, or pictures, or even looking out the window. (Gets a bit frustrating at times when I'm
concentrating on one thing and get 'interrupted'.) I take it though as there is a message there for
me; something I need to address, something to learn, or something that is calling out that I need
to be aware of.

I am happy for and honor these visions. I normally can figure out the meaning, or find myself
going thru a lesson with the visions help ... but sometimes I feel totally lost.

Like now, I'm seeing, hearing about, reading about rainbows EVERYWHERE! I don't 'get' the
meaning. I know I love rainbows, I find them beautiful and a gift of nature ... but all these I'm
seeing now almost makes me laugh at the abundance of them. Then I think to self ... 'well, they
gotta mean something to you, or be a sign of something'. Still can't figure it out though.

Sorry, didn't mean to get off topic here, just thinking out loud in writing and can't seem to delete
it ... so there ya have it.

This is an interesting topic, and I'm glad it's here to read and learn from others experience

2CrowWoman:
SacredGarden, I've always loved rainbows too. That might be a good topic for a post of its own -
the meanings and legends about rainbows.

As to seeing things. I'd never really thought of categorizing stuff like that until reading this very
interesting topic. I don't know if I have the right terminology, so I'll just say what I've called it to
myself where I'm not sure. I've had one distinct "vision" (right word?) where I saw something
literally. It was a wolf standing in my doorway and it wasn't in my mind. It was a 3d real animal.
In those few moments it was as real as the doorway and the room. It walked forward and
flattened it's ears and gave one of those doggy "smiles". Then I blinked and it vanished.
I've also had a few "flash visions". They are also very real, but they're different. It's either been a
picture or I've literally been sent back into a memory and relived it. I am there and all I
felt/saw/heard happens all over again. Flash visions only last a few seconds. I remember thinking
the first time that it lasted about as long as a camera flash - hence the name idea.

Sometimes when I look at people I do "see" them in my mind as an animal. It's like the show
Ally McBeal where she was always drifting off and getting these images. I suppose they're like
the veil/superimposed idea, but they're not literally superimposed for me. They're in my own
head, in my own imagination. Sometimes, if they're very strong, they almost become
superimposed, but 90% of the case they're just in my own head.

Weirdly enough - I often "see" people as cartoon characters! (Bugs Bunny, Mickey Mouse, Pooh
Bear...) I suspect that this says more about me than it says about them. I also have my "clear"
people. These are people that are clear and bright when we first meet. It can be a brief passing
each other in the street or the start of a long term relationship of some sort. They seem clear, like
in a movie where the camera blurs the background and makes only one object/person stand out.
Sometimes they seem brighter too. Like their colors are brighter and clearer than anyone or
anything around them.

The ones who stay in my life have always been significant people who have changed my life in
some way. Some were good, some were bad, but they all created change. The ones I pass by in
the street are even stranger. Sometimes they have turned and looked at me as if I "called" them.
Sometimes they smile and nod hello as if they know me. They never stop to talk though. We just
greet each other and move on.

Mizz Mo:
EaglesHand...........
Even though spirit was coming through strongly on this, I just felt a bit of concern about what
they were showing me, and this is in the sense that to me, it was a bit personal for that person.
And that also is another good point that you and Cinn made, I wasn't trying to publish anyone’s
personal stuff. Now I'm sure if I did inbox them, they would have the chance to debunk, or deny
what I was giving them. At any rate, I still would have given the message. When this happened to
me at the other site, I did email that person, who did deny completely that I was NOT even close.
But, that was ok, because even though I doubted what I received from spirit after her denial, it
was still done privately.

I sat with spirit several times throughout several days on this one. I knew that they were not
going to just let this go until I did something. I even tried to get them to go to the admin here. I
felt if it was something that needed someone more experienced to handle it, those two would be
the ones to do it. But spirit, as far as I know, haven't gone to them, and I have done what I
interpreted them asking of me. Even though I trust more of what I receive, I still had in the back
of my mind that I could upset this person, and this was the last thing I wanted to do to someone. I
must have done what they wanted correctly, because the visions left me, and I was able to move
on doing other things in life and read for another.

Sacred, you're not off topic. That’s kind of how it started for me. Just gazing at other things,
when visions would come through.

Rainbows, very interesting. Could this mean something about diversity?

2 Crow, some flash visions I've had on several occasions, were those flashes of completely
knowing, just to have it taken back. It’s like, for a brief second, you seem to understand
everything, and its euphoric, then in the next breath your fighting trying to remember what you
were given. Even the sounds, colors around you change, just for that brief moment of time.

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