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                STANDING PEOPLE, STONE PEOPLE, 
                  TOTEMS, MESSENGERS DISCUSSION
                  By EagleSinging
                
                  Standing Stones in Avebury UK. 
                  
                  © Gloria Hazell (Dragonfly Dezignz) 2008
                  
                  The Spiritual World is so rich and complex. I was taking my 
                  quiet time this morning and I asked
                  "so what's up with all these different ways of connecting 
                  with spirit".....standing people, stone
                  people, Fae, spirit messengers in all forms - animal totems, 
                  angels, guides, and spirit keepers.....
                  (and I'm not even talking about dreams, synchronicity, and those 
                  moments of clarity). I was
                  shown circles merging, overlaying, melding, separating yet ALWAYS 
                  in motion, always
                  FLUID. Separate, complete in themselves and part of One. In 
                  some way I realize as I'm typing
                  this that well "yes of course." To take it deeper 
                  for me, I was wondering how some of you here at
                  SL see this, or is it something that "just is" for 
                  you and you've had no questions about it. Yep,
                  this says it all!
                  
                  Wisowl:
                  You were shown great symbols of how it all works, Eagle Singing. 
                  *smile* I just started to try to
                  say how I see things ... but it sounded stealthy, artificial. 
                  In earnest I am one who really doesn't
                  think much about it, for me it is simply so! *crooked smile*... 
                  but then I am one who grew up
                  with my abilities, so it was all natural ... even though it 
                  was late in life that I found my
                  spirituality and understood more about my guides etc. This way 
                  all was natural for me, no
                  question had to be asked.
                  
                  WindDancer:
                  I'm not sure if I'm answering your question or not, but for 
                  me they are all Oneness. I feel that
                  Oneness/Source/God 'shapeshifts' (if you like) into a form that 
                  we can see, understand or relate
                  to. I have received messages from so many different sources 
                  that I am left feeling that ultimately,
                  it is all about connecting with the divine spark within myself, 
                  and that when I am connected, I
                  simply know. Perhaps the standing people, totems, stone people 
                  etc are all 'incarnations' of our
                  higher selves, of our inner essence. Since we tend to doubt 
                  ourselves, and often look outside for
                  knowledge, maybe these 'beings' introduce us to our inner knowing 
                  in a package that we can
                  accept. I have noticed a common sense of humor between my various 
                  messengers. And I often
                  say that 'spirit' has a wicked sense of humor. This commonality 
                  has made me feel that all of these
                  messengers are one, and are somehow connected to me. Not the 
                  'me' that you see every day, but
                  the one who is eternal, who will continue to be after I leave 
                  this body. Don't know if this makes
                  any sense.
                  
                  Minna:
                  Hi, Yes, kind of like WindDancer said, but when I express it 
                  I don't know if this will make sense.
                  To me, it's all little / big, whatever sized points on the Great 
                  Web of Consciousness. Everyone
                  has a language and, except sometimes for humans, they all speak 
                  of The Same Thing, all point to
                  The Same Reality, only in their different ways of being and 
                  in their own language. We each hear
                  the language we are more attuned to, so there are many ways 
                  to tell and to hear the story. We
                  are all like individuated creations, expressions, manifestations, 
                  dreams and wishes of the Great
                  One. And if we are lucky we can hear each other's stories in 
                  whatever way we can perceive them
                  best.
                  
                  Jimmy WhiteBear:
                  Think of the infinity of the Medicine wheel within the Medicine 
                  wheel. How many ways is there
                  to connect to creator/creation?...Bear
                  
                  CinnamonMoon:
                  I don't have questions about the multitude of spirit forms that 
                  present themselves. To me it makes
                  sense, has always been that way, and it 'fits' the 'big picture'. 
                  Think of the life forms that inhabit
                  Mother Earth...go out into the universe and see the planets 
                  that have some form of life...we're not
                  the only one, I've always felt that an arrogant thought. Think 
                  of the dimensions we can tap into
                  and the inhabitants they contain. Why not a multitude of life 
                  forms and entities? Why not? It
                  seems totally natural to me that the universe is infinite in 
                  its populations. With the variety of
                  beliefs that humans have the messengers are going to need to 
                  adapt to those beliefs in some way
                  to establish communication. While the essence of life is the 
                  same in all of us the expressions are
                  different. We all come from the same source, as do the messengers. 
                  Because they are in energy
                  form they are free to shape-shift to anything we are willing 
                  to embrace. Spirit sends those we will
                  embrace to us, knowing well in advance how our minds perceive. 
                  At least that's been my experience.
                  
                  "I was shown circles merging, overlaying, melding, separating 
                  yet ALWAYS in motion, always
                  FLUID. Separate, complete in themselves and part of One."
                  And that's the nutshell...wait until it cracks open!
                  
                  BearFlute/Doug Luzar:
                  To me, it seems that there are so many different ways to connect 
                  to Spirit, because, Everything is
                  Spirit. There is nothing that is not. It is all Spirit connecting 
                  with Spirit. Kinda like two mirrors
                  facing each other, whatever is in-between them looking at itself 
                  is reflected back unto infinity.
                  Wheels within wheels within wheels...within wheels..........However, 
                  if a chimpanzee looks at
                  itself in the mirror, it is not self-aware enough when young 
                  to realize it is looking at itself.
                  Mostly we are like young chimpanzees, so when I try to connect 
                  with a Tree, I forget that I am
                  connecting with me. That it is my reflection I see. Sometimes 
                  I am not real good at explaining
                  things, so I hope I didn't offend anyone by calling us all chimps. 
                  Listen for the Flute on the Breeze
                  
                  WindDancer:
                  Bearflute that was great - what a wonderful description. Shame 
                  we don't have any chimp
                  emoticons - who would have thought?!!
                  
                  EagleSinging:
                  I am so blessed to know you all. I'm in awe. Each of you have 
                  gifted me new perspectives. It is
                  my learned experience to categorize and organize and as I look 
                  back Spirit was showing me in a
                  way I can relate to the message. You've added a depth that imbedded 
                  this Truth deeper within
                  me. I sense it is time to shed my categories and organization 
                  and just accept. Hmmm. I was
                  feeling a little foolish posting the thread, but Spirit nudged 
                  me to do it and now I understand
                  why. Thanks for hanging in there with me.
                
                
                   
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